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Hi, I'm new here and I'm not a scientist, mathematician or engineer. I have a few thoughts on perpetual motion machines I would like to share, and then open this to discussion.
(By the way I started this exact discussion on a popular physics forum and got banned for life without explanation except to say I was a discussing "crackpot spam." I trust the forum mods here will not be so short sighted. As you will see there is nothing crack pot in a serious discussion of perpetual motion machines.)
I remember back in the 1980s as a school boy learning about perpetual motion machines. The teachers said they were impossible. I have always been convinced otherwise. Laying aside the subtle intricacies of the second law of thermal dynamics, a practical perpetual motion machine is one that is a machine that is self sustaining and provides the ability to do work and does not require more energy from an outside force to continue doing that work. I say ' practical' because even if the device does break down in a thousand years it will have well served it's purpose giving us a thousand years of free energy.
To me, A perpetual motion machine is not impossible. We have them all around us they are called galaxies. One form. Yet we have another form they are called Atoms with electrons and protons spinning around a nucleus. Atoms can be split in two, galaxies can be swallowed up by massive black holes over time but energy is never really destroyed, it just changes forms.
The thing is, I believe I have invented such a device. At least in theory. To me the theory is sound and I almost had a working prototype except I cannot get the materials to build and test a good model. I am not a scientist but merely a layperson with mechanical experience. You take a wheel that's allowed to spin freely via a shaft in the middle. You place magnets all around the outside of the wheel at angles. You then place magnets around the outside of this wheel with other magnets not touching the wheel. The wheel will be made to spin because of the repelling effect the magnets around the wheel have on the magnets attached to the wheel. There is your perpetual motion machine. Next all you have to do is apply Faraday's electromagnetic induction principles to a shaft in the middle of the wheel and Poof, you have free electricity. You can then take this small amount of free electricity and charge capacitor banks/step up transformers to power a larger motor or perhaps make an electromagnet that you then feed back into the first spinning wheel for greater output from the electromagnetic induction. Either way this perpetual motion machine will be self perpetuating and it will produce energy. Simply put Magnetic Force provides the starting energy. I truly believe in my heart that this could work.
One may say that well of course if it has not been done this means it cannot be done but I refuse to believe such nonsense. After all, the world was flat, communication and sending power over long distances was impossible as well as flying machines, and of course it would only take the power of the gods themselves to put a man on the moon. I don't think this has been tried in the past because we did not have the man made magnets ( small strong magnets) we do now or the strong lightweight materials that can be used for other parts of the device.
I got the idea one day when playing with magnets and a plastic transparent tube. I could make a simple anti-gravity device by placing a magnet at one end of the tube and dropping another magnet on top of it to watch it 'float'. I thought, why couldn't I figure out a way to put this to work. All you have to do first to prove a real perpetual motion machine is possible is make the wheel spin, that's it nothing fancy. You tell me whats so crackpot about that?
Of course if I did have a working model and something ever came of this I would like to make some kind of money on it and have it called by my name.. such is the ego and I do have need of money to live out a healthy happy life but I require no more than is reasonable as with any inventor.
The main reason I want this to work is to give the world a cheap reliable energy source so we can lessen our dependence on fossil fuels. Simply buy the device once hook it to your home and never pay the electric or gas company again for example.
Please let me hear your thoughts on this matter.
Thank You
Last edited by John Phoenix (2009-08-31 09:12:27)
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John Phoenix wrote:
... I have a few thoughts on perpetual motion machines I would like to share, and then open this to discussion. .... Laying aside the subtle intricacies of the second law of thermal dynamics,
You can’t simply "lay aside" the fundamental laws of physics.
...a practical perpetual motion machine is one that is a machine that is self sustaining and provides the ability to do work and does not require more energy from an outside force to continue doing that work.
So, Conservation of Energy is a myth?
I say ' practical' because even if the device does break down in a thousand years it will have well served it's purpose giving us a thousand years of free energy.
If it's truly a "perpetual motion" machine, why would it cease to operate? To put it another way, if by "break down" you mean "eventually cease to operate not due to any mechanical failure," then what you are talking about is decidedly not "perpetual motion."
... I believe I have invented such a device. At least in theory. .... You place magnets all around the outside of the wheel at angles. You then place magnets around the outside of this wheel with other magnets not touching the wheel. The wheel will be made to spin because of the repelling effect the magnets around the wheel have on the magnets attached to the wheel. There is your perpetual motion machine.
If nothing else, the repelling action of the magnets would be countered by a similar attracting action as the wheel began to spin.
... I truly believe in my heart that this could work.
One may say that well of course if it has not been done this means it cannot be done but I refuse to believe such nonsense. After all, the world was flat, communication and sending power over long distances was impossible as well as flying machines, and of course it would only take the power of the gods themselves to put a man on the moon. I don't think this has been tried in the past because we did not have the man made magnets ( small strong magnets) we do now or the strong lightweight materials that can be used for other parts of the device.
I suggest that you do some homework. Perhaps these two articles would provide a helpful start:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of … n_machines
... Of course if I did have a working model and something ever came of this I would like to make some kind of money on it and have it called by my name.. such is the ego and I do have need of money to live out a healthy happy life but I require no more than is reasonable as with any inventor.
Then build it; not only would you become a very wealthy man, but your place in the History of Physics would be assured. ![]()
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