At best, you are presenting a rambling opinion peppered with vague adjectives and qualifiers that has nothing at all to do with “infinity,” other than the fact that there likely is an infinite number of such opinions possible.

If infinity does exist then obviously there must be an infinate quantity of permutations of the particles that make up the space time continuum.

There i think lies your biggest mistake.  If you consider the end of the present universe to be the end of time thus disproving infinity, would everythin just start again should another universe be formed?

Also does this mean that there ever was a beggining.

I suggest you look at the theoriy that states that gravity will pull the universe into a singularity and then some time later errupt in another big bang creating a new universe.   (this could be found under theories to the end of the universe)

That may alter your perspective on things

Question: "Does Infinity exist?"

Answer: most likely, take what happens when you enter a black hole

A black hole is said to encompass the four dimensions of space and time, thus as a body approaches the event horizon, time is distorted due to the force of the acceleration, and force of the field. To an outside observer it would slow gradually, and along with it, wavelengths, although maintaining velocity, are red-shifted. As the body becomes even closer to the event horizon, time appears to stop. Strong tidal forces would cause the body to be ripped apart. Upon reaching the event horizon, the body would never be seen again, and is thought by scientists to race irreversibly towards the singularity, and become infinitely more dense.

Thats as close as you're gonna get to infinity in this particular universe. Of course one could argue that infinity exists through things like the big bang and big crucnh, but everyone else has spoken about this theory already, so im not going to was everyone's time repeating it.

I'm rather confused trying to follow this thread.  "Infinity" is a mathematical concept, not a physical one.  Infinity is the concept of increasing without bound.  Infinity is not a number; it cannot be placed on the number line.  It is rather a statement about the unlimited growth of something.  We make statements like .  This means that as we let x grow without bound, then likewise grows without bound.  So, to me, it makes no sense to ask whether infinity exists, any more than it makes sense to ask "Does the number 2 exist?" or "Does the exponential function exist?"  These things are descriptions of tendencies created in the minds of humans.  They are pure ideas.

If the question is "is the size of the universe infinite," then that's a different issue, and we need to know what we mean by "universe."  If we mean "the total aggregation of all the matter in the universe," then we know that the "universe" as such is finite but expanding in size.  If instead we are asking about the limits of the geometry in which this matter is placed, then it is impossible to know what lies beyond the edge of the matter in the universe and whether a boundary exists somewhere, because the only way to find out would be to bring matter there, at which point it would not be outside the physical universe anymore.  To the best of my knowledge the geometrical models of our universe (the cosmological metrics) describe an infinite, four-dimensional manifold.

I hope I answered your question somewhere in there, alex.

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