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#1 2007-10-05 01:23:31

Nicholas
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How to create space dimension

Space is something moving at the speed limit of light 3 dimensionally. Things that move in this movement can only do it slower.

Movement creates space or degrees of freedom.
Nothing else can create space. And if this higher motion moved faster it would define a greater speed limit.

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#2 2007-10-06 08:40:30

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Re: How to create space dimension

Are you saying the space between my fingers is moving at the speed of light?

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#3 2007-10-11 03:21:03

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Re: How to create space dimension

Yes steve. Whatever is making space that is the speedlimit.

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#4 2007-10-12 04:36:34

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Re: How to create space dimension

My fingers moved apart making space between them.  I moved my fingers slowly apart to make the space between them.  they did not move at the speed of light to make the space.

I would like to learn about this space thing, and you sound like you might know about this space thing,  so maybe you could tell me or show me the reference that states that space is something that moves at the speed limit of light, and movement creates space or degrees of freedom. 

I have tons of questions about space, like when I blow up a balloon,  am I breathing in space and putting it in the balloon?

I know these questions sound simple, but that is why I am on this web site, I would like to know more about this space thing.

   Thank You.

   Steve.

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#5 2007-10-12 23:50:12

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Re: How to create space dimension

Whatever is making space is moving at the speed of light. I believe that time and moving aether are candidates for what is making space.

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#6 2007-10-13 10:12:48

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Re: How to create space dimension

Nicholas wrote:

Whatever is making space is moving at the speed of light. I believe that time and moving aether are candidates for what is making space.

When you say making space are you saying that space is made of something like matter or energy?

  Steve

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#7 2007-10-14 22:19:03

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Re: How to create space dimension

I believe there is a substance to space. tongue

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#8 2007-10-15 04:51:13

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Re: How to create space dimension

Your belief that there is substance to space, what is it based on?  Scientific references?  Scientific experiments?

Your belief in something does not make it a real thing.

So do you believe that space is made of matter or energy?
  What type of substance is space made of?

Can you back up your belief with scientific data?  I may sound like I am doubting you, but the statement “I believe there is substance to space”  is not  proof that it is, all you need to do is mention the reference that states space has substance and has agreement among the science community, or some physical evidence that the world can agree on.  Look up the definition of space in many different reference books.  This might be a good research project for you to find out if space is real, and what makes it so.  Anybody reading this is invited to see if they can show that space has substance, and is not just a belief.


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#9 2007-10-15 06:47:04

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Re: How to create space dimension

Who says science has to prove its belief?

It can only disprove.

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#10 2007-10-15 14:08:32

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Are you kidding?  Are you saying that the claims that science makes do not have to be proven?

Also, where is the reference “that says that which makes space travels at the speed of light“?

I think you have a misunderstanding of what science is.  Religion is based on beliefs, science is based on proven observable phenomena and testing.  Scientists do not just state a belief they have and leave it at that, unproven or unexamined.  Do some research on the job of science, and look up these terms:  Theory,  Scientific Law, Hypothesis,  Physics,  Scientific method.  You can find all of these terms on the internet.

You need to get a basic understanding of  how science works.


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#11 2007-12-03 19:11:56

Nicholas
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Re: How to create space dimension

Science can be a belief system just as is religion.

What do you choose to believe?

Mitch Raemsch

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#12 2007-12-04 06:08:41

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Re: How to create space dimension

Nicholas wrote:

Science can be a belief system just as is religion.

What do you choose to believe?

Mitch Raemsch

That is a misunderstanding on your part.  Look up the definition of science and religion.  I do not know if you are making these kind of statements just to get a reaction or some kind of attention.  Much of what you have posted is based on your personal beliefs and not science.  What is your intention for making such statements?

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#13 2007-12-08 21:28:43

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Re: How to create space dimension

steve wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

Science can be a belief system just as is religion.

What do you choose to believe?

Mitch Raemsch

What is your intention for making such statements?

Personal expression.

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#14 2007-12-30 02:22:26

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Re: How to create space dimension

Space has been being made since the hypersphere point at time zero expanded.

Space is continually being created in universal expansion.

Mitch Raemsch

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#15 2008-04-21 05:54:36

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Re: How to create space dimension

i want to know the meaning of 'space time is curved'

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#16 2008-04-23 15:50:01

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Re: How to create space dimension

Then by all means, do not listen to Nicholas.


Chemists are physicists who don't do math. smile

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#17 2008-05-09 21:01:45

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Re: How to create space dimension

prathap wrote:

i want to know the meaning of 'space time is curved'

The substance of space is geometry but it is the curved geometry of Riemann not the classic geometry of Euclid.

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#18 2008-09-12 14:20:42

Nicholas Cage
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Re: How to create space dimension

prathap wrote:

i want to know the meaning of 'space time is curved'

Nobody who has ever lived truly understood the meaning of that phrase, but there are three very important notions as to what it probably means. There may be more, but other meanings would be less important (maybe), and it's an entirely different subject to discuss how these three are related. 1) Let's say you have a line, it's 1 dimensional. Now, take that line and add a line at a right angle to it. You now have the axes for 2 dimensions. Find the right angle to both of these and add a line there you get the axes for 3 dimensions. Now, try and keep yourself from banging your head on the table while you try to visualize a line that forms a right angle to all of these. If you travel an infinite distance along this line you return to  where you started. Now imagine a sphere that uses all of these axes and you're well on your way to imagining the shape of the universe. 2) Now, let's jump down in size and consider the Earth and it's gravitational pull. This gravitational pull is the result of a curve in space that causes trajectories to align towards the Earth's center. Basically all the affects of forces are determined by a bend in space in some form or another (including electro-magnetism). Hold a magnet over some nail filings and you can actually see a version of the curvature of space. Now, align North and South vertically and pretend the magnet's not there (it helps to draw a picture). You see a rather circular object on each side of the magnet that flows through the magnet. This may not seem very significant, but if you really want to understand the meaning of curvature of space-time it's imperative that you take these things into consideration. 3) Last but not least is the spatio-temporal curvature that occurs at the subatomic level. Don't ask me to visualize this one for you I can't visualize anything smaller than an atom in the first place, and then to try and bend that into an extra dimension? Not gonna happen. But I can give you my two cents on the matter. Atoms are composed of electrons, protons, and neutrons, which are composed of mysterious things known as quarks. I (as in me, the ENTIRE scientific community could differ from this position as far as I know) think of these quarks as being fixated to a point in space. Quarks interact via the strong force which cause bends into the extra dimensions, just like all the fundamental forces. You can think of the points these quarks are fixated to as a fabric that warps slightly as these quarks vibrate. Greater and greater vibrations produce waves in this fabric that account of many many many more phenomena. But I think thats enough to lay on you for now. Have fun

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