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#1 2008-04-28 11:58:48

hughbg
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Triple integral written in shorthand?

I'm referring to the equation for a distribution of charges (E) in the section Some Practical Applications in a wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_i … lications.

Up until that point the page refers to multiple integrals of the form LaTeX Image,  which I can understand. Then all of a sudden we have LaTeX Image.

What does LaTeX Image mean? And why aren't there three integral signs if it's a triple integral?

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#2 2008-04-29 18:04:47

M@Man
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Re: Triple integral written in shorthand?

hughbg,

     Don't be confused by the (sometimes awkward) notation.  Both expressions you have written stand for the same volume (triple) integral:

LaTeX Image

There are some advantages to using either notation.  The three integrals over x, y, and z are somewhat clearer, and it is easy to see how to perform those integrals.  However, this method requires integrating the volume in Cartesian coordinates, which may not always be the most convenient coordinates for your integral.  If you were doing a volume integral over the interior of a sphere, for instance, doing the integration in Cartesian coordinates - although it must give the same answer - would be significantly harder than doing the integral in spherical coordinates.  This is an advantage of the single-integral notation: it is expressed in a form that is independent of coordinates and lets you manipulate it easily before you have to actually pick a coordinate system before you do the integral.  Carrying around the three integrals, on the other hand, would just be cumbersome. 

And the differential being integrated over on the left-hand side is merely the volume element:

LaTeX Image

The middle two expressions are in Cartesian and spherical coordinates, respectively. 

So don't be dismayed by the strange notation.  The mathematics it stands for is the same triple integral that you are familiar with; the notation just evolves as you need to use it in a variety of contexts.  The LaTeX Image notation, for instance, becomes useful when you need to do integrals in more than 3 dimensions.  When doing special relativity, you often integrate over 4-dimensional spacetime with volume element LaTeX Image (where LaTeX Image is the speed of light).  In general, the notation for the volume element is LaTeX Image, where LaTeX Image is the number of dimensions being integrated over.

And a note on the bounds for the integrals: especially when using the LaTeX Image notation, the volume being integrated over is usually implied.  Often the volume is all space, but sometimes we actually mean to imply integration over a particular volume that is understood.  Similarly, we often leave out the bounds of integration on a 1-dimensional integral LaTeX Image when we mean to integrate from LaTeX Image to LaTeX Image

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#3 2008-04-30 03:37:38

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Re: Triple integral written in shorthand?

To give you a good idea why the shorthand is useful, in statistical mechanics we will integrate over the phase space volume for a system to obtain the number of possible microstates. You have N particles (LaTeX Image) that each have 3 position coordinates (configuration space)  and 3 momentum coordinates (momentum space) in phase space. That's LaTeX Image mutually perpendicular axes:

LaTeX Image

It's much easier to write:

LaTeX Image

or:

LaTeX Image


Chemists are physicists who don't do math. smile

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#4 2008-05-02 04:17:23

hughbg
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Re: Triple integral written in shorthand?

Thanks for the explanations.

This is a good site smile

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#5 2008-05-02 19:52:33

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Re: Triple integral written in shorthand?

Glad to help smile

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